Leprechaun thanks Pat, blowing a gale here but at least it’s sunny. Washing on just to take the stuff out to the bins now I’ve sorted it I don’t know We will be putting it in the vans for them next take labels of tins make sure everything is washed don’t put this in or we won’t empty it I remember the days of the heavy metal bins when they collected them from the garden and put them on their backs emptied them and put them back in the same place ,they  have an easy  life these days xx